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"It's like a twisted mirror image. It's insane. So, the servant, who was initially disgusted by the old woman's actions, ends up doing something just as bad, if not worse." [10]
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"Like the rain, for example, the constant rain. It's relentless. It's like a symbol of the misery and hardship, the neverending cycle of suffering." [12]
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"because it's such a powerful symbol of a society in decay, of the collapse of order and morality, and the fact that our story takes place here. No coincidence, but Kuragawa chose this setting for a reason. To highlight the fragility of civilization, how easily things can fall apart." [12, 13]
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"And then of course there's the Rashimon effect. Ah, yes, the Rashimon effect which is named after this story. And for good reason, because it perfectly illustrates the idea that truth is subjective, that there are multiple perspectives and that sometimes it's impossible to know what really happened." [13, 14]
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"because it asks these big questions, these fundamental questions about human nature. And it doesn't give us easy answers. It just leaves us with this lingering sense of unease and the challenge to figure things out for ourselves." [17]
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"So for a listener who might be new to Rashimon, what's the one thing you'd want them to take away from this deep dive? That's a good question. I think I'd say this Rashimon isn't just a story. It's an experience. It's a journey into the darkest corners of the human psyche." [17]
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"Exactly. So go read the story, experience it for yourself, and then ask yourself, What would I have done in that situation? What choices would I have made?" [18]
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"And on that note, I think we've reached the end of our deep dive. Another one down. As always, it's been a pleasure exploring these complex ideas with you." [18]
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